Alanfraserpiano
When speaking of enlightenment, you can never know another person's experience. All you can do is try to understand the limitations of your own perceptions and then try to transcend them. And that is a lifelong task.
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Ivo Pogorelich - Is there tension in this video ?
Technique and methods
28 posts
Started 18 Jan 2017
A pianist
I have to agree with Alan. Even if one never achieves enlightenment, the journey taken when searching is so rich with opportunities for living and learning that to me, it is more important than the destination anyway.
A pianist
Because I found out myself
It is merely a projection of the unhappy mind.
I'll post some of my thoughts here this summer. After reading some of the things here, which are interesting.
Wow, this sounds rather deep! Do you know Richard Strauss' metamorphosen? It's like a quest for enlightenment that ends in the bleakest doom imaginable.
I wrote a review of it recently on amazon:
PS. While I think it actually conjures up the sheer pessimism of the piece reasonably well, I should stress that it was written in jest.
A pianist
Deep words in that review as well.
Both Jiddu and UG Krishnamurti (and I can only agree with them) said something like::
"Somewhere along the line of evolution something did go wrong."
or "Men has given tremendous importance to thinking".
In my own words: thinking has "took over" and projects all kinds of nonsense everywhere. Letting go of that is enough
Don't know this music, by the way.
We are far of trancendental pianotechnique here, although... maybe not.
A pianist
Hi
Gekic is the most interesting pianist I've heard I hope I'll hear him live before I die. In my view he is now beyond Horowitz in his research of transcendance. However I suspect he has a problem keeping up volume with a full orchestra?
Sokolov I see him every time he passes Luxembourg and his sound is just something never heard like something emanating from the graveyard of dead masters. He was kept on hold in the Soviet Union for a long time. And I know he's maniac about the instrument the cauchemar of technicians. When asked how much he practised he said 24h a day.Very nice guy privately.
As may hands are a bit like the Pogorelish brothers I tried to study Ivo which probably was a dead end as Alan made me understand his technical defaults which I now clearly understand. I beleive Ivo is on a spiritual path which is a good thing and he does some completely egocentric things with tempi etc-which also is a good thing in these pianistically generic times. But I prefer the interpretations of his brother by far.He plays for the big hall.
Alanfraserpiano
Kemal and I would both say you go beyond Horowitz, but I know what you mean. At times I have heard him do things in a domain I never heard Horowitz touch. It's a result of striving ever further, ever closer to "perfection," whatever that is...
As for the question, "why strive?", there's an obvious answer: so geeks like you and me can write about the striver on this forum!
AFF
A pianist
Deep words in that review as well.
Both Jiddu and UG Krishnamurti (and I can only agree with them) said something like::
"Somewhere along the line of evolution something did go wrong."
or "Men has given tremendous importance to thinking".
In my own words: thinking has "took over" and projects all kinds of nonsense everywhere. Letting go of that is enough
Don't know this music, by the way.
We are far of trancendental pianotechnique here, although... maybe not.
Try either of these incredible recordings.
Although my review was intended to be ludicrously exaggerated for comic effect, I suppose there are plenty of true words said as a joke. It's one of the most depressing pieces I've ever encountered (aside from the futile climax in the middle- which only makes the end all the more tragic).
Very little to do with piano playing, of course, but I can see why Gould regarded it as his favourite piece of music. I'd go as far as to say that I can't think of any better blend of raw emotion and structure in the whole of music. I think it's a piece that shouldn't be listened to too often, though, if you value your sanity.
Alanfraserpiano
I am incredibly busy teaching and traveling, hop-scotching from city to city right now but this thread intrigues me and I can't wait to listen to this piece... Next week some time will have to do...
AFF
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